NOTE: While I normally do not follow any of these ministries; I see Oral Roberts in his advanced years as some one fearfully acquainted with the reality of eternal reward or consequences.  I do not believe this is contrived in any way, but is in fact a genuine vision from the Lord.

On August 26, 2004, Oral Roberts, Richard Roberts, and Kenneth Copeland met to discuss a very important vision God had given Oral Roberts concerning the future of the United States, the Jews, the Christians, and the world.

The following is a partial transcript of that meeting.

Richard: It is a privilege and honor today to be seated between two men whom I love with all my heart.  My father, Oral Roberts, who has been and continues to be my mentor in the healing ministry, and I thank God that I could be sitting next to him and also next to my dear beloved friend, Kenneth Copeland, who prophesied into my life that I was coming home, away from those things which I had gone to and that I was giving my heart to God. It all came to pass. If I had to pick two men to sit between, these would be the two.

Kenneth:  Thank you, Richard.  Praise the Lord.  

Richard: This is a very special time because God has given a vision to my father, a vision about the future of this nation, of the Jews, of the Christians, of the world, and what God is about to do.  And God has given Kenneth a prophetic word concerning that vision, which is extremely important to you, and you don't want to miss what's going to happen. The Bible says in Amos 3:7: "Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless he reveals his secret to His servants the prophets."

Kenneth:  Amen.

Richard: And I want you to listen with your heart because I believe when you hear the vision and you hear the prophetic interpretation, you're going to be touched; you're going to know what God is about to do; you can get your heart ready and be prepared and it's important for us to be prepared.  Dad, would you just begin to share the vision that God has laid on your heart?

Oral: In the midst of the turmoil, the fear, the anxiety that's in our nation and in our world, as I was walking and meditating, I heard the voice of God.  I've heard that voice many times; it's familiar to me, and there's no way that I can fail to understand it's His voice because I'm familiar with it.  And instantly I heard that voice and I heard it and then I saw with my eyes something I'd never seen.  Suddenly, in the clouds in the skies above New York City and the east part of the United States, and which hung there for quite some time and then spread out across America, without touching the ground, and then God diffused it away from America and sent it out to the nations of the earth.  

And I saw and I heard. What did I see?  I saw something coming down from above: smoke and vapor and blood, or it looked like that to my eyes, to my spiritual eyes.  There it was; hanging so huge until it almost blotted out the sky.  Instantly I thought about 9/11, when the terrorists attacked the twin towers and through television, all of us in America, and probably the world, saw those more than a hundred-story-high buildings crumple and heard the cry of thousands of people who were being either killed or wounded.  I remembered the fear that struck my heart and knew that what I was feeling, everybody else was feeling, and remembered that never in the history of the world, and certainly not of America, that something of this proportion had struck the human race and was a preview of things similar to it that were going to happen through what we now call terrorists.

First I saw this thing hovering and great changes coming in it to where I couldn't miss it, and then I heard, something came into my ears, and it reminded me of what a friend of mine had said when the first space capsule was released into the sky.   They told me that they made of all of them; (he was a news man in New York City)  to be maybe half mile or more away from the capsule.   And he said when that thing lifted off the earth, there was a sound, and the sound itself moved the weeds and the growth, and he said, "It penetrated my body." He said, "As I talked to others, they felt the same thing." He said the sound was so enormous that nothing had ever happened like it in the history of the world.

Instantly I thought of that, because the sound that was coming into my ears was penetrating my whole being.   And then I heard God's voice.  He said,  I'm making a sign.  This is a sign according to the second chapter of Acts, where the Apostle Peter, upon the giving of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, said there'll be signs in the skies.

He said, this is one of the signs of the end time because the world is not ready for the second  coming of my Son.  He said,  My church is not ready for the second coming of my Son. He said,  The Jews, with whom I've had the covenant for thousands of years, they're not ready for the second coming of my Son. He said,  The nations of the earth are not ready for the second coming of my Son!

 He said, America has been set aside by a special covenant that I made with many of the people who came to found this nation several hundred years ago, that this was my nation and the gospel was going to go out from it unlike any other nation and there'd be more gospel going out from America.

And he said,  Not only would there be a powerful military presence in the United States unlike any other nation, but it would be the center of the gospel that I was sending out. And he said to me, you remember that I said in my Bible to my disciples 2,000 years ago?  Go into all the world and teach all nations, and when that teaching has reached the nations then shall the end come.

 And then he startled me. He said, with all of the widespread force of my church in the world, but particularly in the United States, which is the source of most of the gospel that's being preached in all the world, he said, there is a wasting of my power; there is a failure to grasp the end time.   And the church, they are coming to church on Sunday morning mostly for themselves and the preachers, for the most part, are not really concerned about the nations of the earth.  They're concerned about the little group that is there, and they sing their songs and they get up and preach.   And he said, when 9/11 struck, there was a fear that came into the hearts, even of my people of the church and of people outside the church; and millions the following Sunday or two rushed to go to church, but the preachers were not prepared, and most of them didn't even preach on it and didn't even talk about it being the sign of something that's coming hundreds of thousands of times bigger.  He said,  when those planes of the terrorists struck the twin towers in New York City and they gradually came tumbling down, it was something bigger than people had ever seen; but it's nothing in comparison to what's going to happen in the second coming of my Son.!

And so he said, My church was not prepared to deal with that, and people came to church and then nothing much happened, and they dropped back, and many of them went back to their bars.   And he said, I love people, I created them.  I love them; My creation.  I love them because I sent my only begotten Son.  And instantly I thought of the great show that Mel Gibson made of The Passion.

When millions upon millions went to see it [The Passion] and are seeing it now all over the world.  I remember when I sat there with my wife, watching it, and how my soul was stirred and the tears sprang from my eyes and my body trembled as I saw something about the sufferings of Jesus, the Son of God, to save the human race and so that the devil would not destroy God's creation, he would not destroy men, women and children that God had created and for whom Jesus had died and rose from the dead, that we might be born again, we might repent of our sins and have salvation and come into a readiness for the coming of Christ.

And he says, as you know in the Bible, the second coming is in two parts.  One is called the rapture; one is called the revelation.   And, first of all, I'm going to rapture, or catch up, my people, the people who are born of my Spirit and filled with my Spirit and serving me.  I'm going to catch them up in a moment of time and they'll meet my Son in the clouds and come on into heaven, into my presence.  And then not long after, I'm going to bring that bride of Christ back with Jesus when he comes the second time to the earth, and that'll be the beginning of the judgment of the nations.

(Note:  While I disagree about the rapture as being pre-tribulation; as implied here; I felt it would be a dishonor to simply delete the last paragraph).

But he said, the thing that is breaking my heart is that I commanded my people, I commanded my church to preach the gospel in all the world and to teach all nations.  And while they are evangelists and pastors and prophets and apostles and all kinds of my workers in various parts of the world and in some of the nations of the earth, it's just a drop  in the bucket to what I commanded my disciples to do.  And I love people so much I cannot afford to let people go on like they are. 

And then he directed my attention to the book of Matthew, the 24th chapter, where he speaks in the 24th chapter and beginning at verse 35: "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.  But of that day and hour knows; no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."   What I'm talking about is known only to the Father.

"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.  For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Now he reminded me in the 6th chapter of Genesis that the earth was filled with violence and it was so full it couldn't be any more full, and it grieved the heart of God that he had made man, and he decided that he would destroy man and begin over.  And he established a remnant, and it was a family; Noah and his family.  And he commanded him to build a huge boat that would take two of every living thing in it so when the flood came (and they'd never had rain before in the earth; it had been watered by a mist), he said, when the flood comes and this boat with this family and two of every living thing gets in it, and the flood lifts them up from the earth that's being destroyed or from the human race that's being destroyed the flood that lifts the ark, or the remnant of my people, in Noah's day, will come down in judgment upon the people of the earth.

And he said, Now, there's got to be preaching with fire in the belly.  There's got to be anointing of the Holy Ghost.  My church has to wake up, because what I'm revealing in this sign that every eye is going to see, every ear is going to hear, they'll see this thing.  They will not necessarily know what it is, but it's a wake up call about the second coming of my Son.

It's not going to come and touch the earth.   It's going to be seen, it's going to be heard, and people are going to become aware of the drama of  the end time, of the second coming of Christ when he splits the skies and comes back with His bride and takes over the reign of the earth, and he destroys the Antichrist who will arise at that time; he will destroy the followers of Antichrist and he'll establish His kingdom upon the earth.?  And he said, I cannot let anybody live and die without knowledge that my Son is coming back the second time.

Well, I shook in my body.  I went into the kitchen where Evelyn, my darling wife, was, and I immediately told her.  The following day my son, Richard, flew out from Tulsa to California, where I now live in the sunset of my life.  I'm now 86 and Evelyn is 87.  And I set him down and I told him what I've told you.  Then I picked up the phone and I called a prophet of God, Kenneth Copeland, who is my son in the Lord for, I guess, 45 years at least, a powerful man of God in this earth and in the world, and I told him what I've told you.

And I said, Kenneth, it seems to me that we should tell the world about this vision, because I saw it and I heard it and well, it seems to me, it could be very soon that this sign, whatever form it is revealed to you maybe you won't see it exactly like I saw it, but you'll see something that's beyond anything you've ever seen. You'll hear something in the innermost part of your being that you've not heard.  It'll have to do with the second coming, to tell you it's now time to get on your knees.

I feel it now coming out of my being.  It's now time to go back to church; but it's now time, preacher, teacher, to get up with my Bible and really preach the second coming of Christ and to tell people things aren't going on like they're going on now.  There's going to be an end of all this. There's going to be a wake up of the whole world, and the terrorists are just the prelude.  What we're seeing now from them is not going to stop.

There are going to be things happen from them beyond what we now see, and I'll say more about that in a moment.  But, Richard and Kenneth, I tell you again, as I've already done a few days ago, that's the vision that God gave me.

Richard: Well, after you and I sat down and you shared this vision with me, and then after you and Kenneth talked on the telephone, then I received a phone call from Kenneth, and he said, "Richard, do you have a way to record this conversation?" And he told me...

Oral: There it is, right here.  You sent it to me.

Richard: Yes. ...what the Lord had spoken to him prophetically, which was in my mind, Kenneth, an interpretation of what the vision was and what you saw as a result of that.  Would you begin to share what you shared with me on the phone from the prophetic standpoint of what this means and how it may come about, who it's going to affect and what it means in terms of our nation and, as he said, the Jews and the church and the nations?

Kenneth:   One thing, that it really is a wake up call, that we are there, that it's just not something that's going to happen way out in the future someplace.   We're really there: 6000 years has come and gone since the Garden of Eden, and the 7,000th year, we're facing it.  It's right in our face.   So all of these things that have to happen between the sixth and seventh thousandth year, we're right in the middle of that.  It's just a little sliver of time there, and we're right in the middle of it.  And everything that God said was going to come to pass in that 6,000 years is going to have to be finished right here in this little small period of time, in this little period of grace, where I believe multiplied billions of people are going to find out about what God is doing, and they have a choice.   They can either accept it or pay the consequences.

Note:  While their conversation went on much longer; the tone of the conversation was that this was not going to be averted in any way.  We as God’s people can prepare for what is about to happen; which calls for widespread repentance; but what is coming is on God’s timetable; not man’s.   Remember five virgins were ready and five were not. 

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